SPD Without Winterizing?

Chilling a column for extraction vs not.
Similar with different solvents.


I definitely see 90% possible, but we still winterize, and consistently get 90+% THC let alone TAC

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I know a lab that does it with their wiped films. What poor operators, constantly water washing away burnt lipids and polymerized gums.

It’s uhm… It works better than I would expect. But they have dark distillate that varies across all shades of poop brown. They also had trouble devolatilizing before distillation. Very stanky distillate.

Good labs don’t do this.

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If done right it can save you alot of time on simple solvent recovery. I would run hot un winterized 1st pass and dewax that then into the wiper when i was doing it. I also decarb and remove volatile’s in the roto. Especially if your trying to remediate or scrub since its already decarbed.

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Sounds like you are removing lipids? But after your first pass distillation? Interesting.

Once they have been distilled the lipids need to be filtered down to at minimum .5 micron. They look cool though all shiny and silvery. Its just a way to cut down on the amount needed to be winterized, i can see how it could easily make bad liters but if you do it right it can really help with through put

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That’s a smart approach, to be honest. The missing step for the lab I mention is filtering that shit out instead of just burning it into the distillation equipment and fouling up the whole operation.

Likewise using the rotovape as a sort of terp-strip/decarboxylation reactor. Clever

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Can’t imagine the pain in the ass of trying to decarb 10l in a spd, always used a roto since day one.

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hahhahahahha, I know a lab that did a lot more than 10L in an SPD

They were very proud of the reactor they graduated to… so much wasted time.

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Yeah I remember I used to decarb in my still and it was a nightmare. I didn’t do a good job of removing volatiles either so it foamed like crazy. One time pressure built up and it shot the thermowell and painted the ceiling then it rained crude. Good times.

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This is the picture of a wiper I use to show people what happens when you don’t winterize prior. Take it how you will when thinking it’s a good idea for spd.

Thats the exact reason i never tried, never needed too but after seeing it in to roto it was just a matter of time before a bump would make have to ahut it down. Or a whole cleanup on isle 1 like your experience. Not sure why anyone would try un winterized in a wiper, seems like theres only one way that would go

You can distill an unwinterized butane extract without charring or degrading the oil. The oil will be bright yellow but very cloudy. Winterize your first pass and you are back on track. Any of you guys describing charring and burning is likely from an alcohol or co2 extract. It’s important to know how all your impurities behave under heat. Sugars will burn and char, fats will become liquid and then distill over.

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Yeah and wiper is different from an SPD (as I’m sure you know), you really have to do a good job prepping your material. SPD I’ve run non-washed room temp. You can do it but wouldn’t recommend.

This is what decarb in your still can get you.

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Frame that and sell it as rorschach x cannabis art.

Untitled.
Crude on acoustic ceiling tile circ. 2022 - @Neutral

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It’s just subcritical co2

I had a great machine that allowed me to throw it right into spd.

You will still have a more difficult cleaning of spd but it works

Save about 15% volume in total

Update: We distilled twice through the SPD and both times hit around 90% TAC. I had my techs winterize the distillate to see how waxy it actually was and we recovered 6% of the total weight in lipids. The product product doesn’t taste any different than with the winterized distillate we had been producing. I was pretty shocked by these results.

which should take your post distillation winterized distillate to ~96% TAC?

1000g at 900mg/g means 900g of cannabinoids and you pulled 60g of “fats”.

if you didn’t ALSO pull cannabinoids in that 60g, you should now have 900g cannabinoids in 940g of distillate. = 95.7%. (one reason folks would winterize post distillation…)

do you?
so what’s actually in the 60 grams you pulled?!?

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In fact, after winterization, it will greatly improve your distillation efficiency of SPD.

In the breaking dabs interview he does it this way but I have not yet tried it. BHO crude into a SPD then run first pass then winterize. I am highly interested if others have done it though as I am wondering if you can do a terpene strip with BHO crude unwinterized and capture the terpenes then run first pass then winterize seems too good to be true.

I used to call those foam parties lol

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