Rapid crystallization during solvent recovery

Check out the edge of this little puddle.

This was a small sample pour that I was looking at for fast crash properties and had in the corner of the pan.

This was less than 3 minutes after pouring and it was happening within seconds.

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I had similar results with fast crashing,
I honestly went to 13x sieve beads and deuce the whole system out , haven’t seen it yet

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What are these pictures of? Crystallization of your treated lpg?

Show me the isobutane diamonds then

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Show me how the shit is completely absent in pure isobutane. Go

Ran with pure isobutane at -40c and these diamonds nore any of my product ever had Medusa or fast crash prior to March last year

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First those do not look all that clear to me (edit: they’re gorgeous but not what I think of as the really clear facets)

Second you need to produce them recently/now not in 2018/9, or else they just show that the fast crash problem also affects isobutane cylinders

Using only isobutane, I see fast crash behavior, even in hot miners, since I picked it up a year ago, up til now. So I have hundreds of those jars I can show you, you have to show the opposite now.

Otherwise, as I said, the “problem” affects iso cylinders too

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But, to say the problem is isobutane itself, would be incorrect. It effecting isobutane in the same manner, isn’t apart of the discussion. The isobutane being mentioned previously, is suggesting that the problem is, that we are all using isobutane, but not normal butane. Though that’s all I have and all that shows up on my coa’s is normal butane, along with others.

I also agree with you. The problem most likely has effected the isobutane supply, as well.

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I have 3 year old tanks of gas

I’m sure the recent adoption of rec in many states has increase the demand for extraction butane and forced suppliers to bring new plants on line. I’m guessing there is some process difference in separation leading to contamination. My bet is something like propene/propylene.

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Does your isobutane produce structures like the ones we have in question. Or. Do you make normal diamond structures. If the latter, well, you already know what my response will be like.

Let’s see your 3 year old isobutane Medusa stones. Please, enlighten me. I beg of you.

I’m good bro. Have fun with your problems. Not my job

At least I have a way to help people with the problem.

have fun, bro

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I posted my sop several times including today. Feel free to give it a shot. I’d love to have someone unbiased try it out as well

those rocks are completely normal diamonds and not medusa stones. When I get back from work ill go through my phone and find more photos.

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I’ll be trying this next. warmer temps seem to help as a bandaid solution, but, from what I’m hearing the 13x gets to the core. i had our 70/30 mix retested against the CofA’s the manufacturer sends and see no detectable benzene in any of it but did see a doubling in the PPM of propylene when this started. not very high mind you, we went from 7 PPM to 14 PPM. H2o2 seems pretty far fetched to me as its been used in grow rooms for years and I’ve never had a issue extracting that biomass before

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14ppm of propene. Holy crap. I’m holding on tight to that being the culprit

Most the folks thinking it’s h202 aren’t farmers and aren’t willing to accept it even when the farmer says they didn’t use h202.

gotta be the flower

It’s frustrating, that even when farmers here say they’ve done the same thing forever, they still revert back to it as a plausible reason.

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I absolutely agree it can’t be h2o2 from being on the weed….I know some of the farmers I’ve done work for and no there’s zero h2o2 on their farm…

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If propylene was the issue it wouldn’t be hard to test this hypothesis. I’m not convinced that propylene is causing this issue though.

I think the cause of this issue presents itself as black magic and we shouldn’t jump to conclusions without being able to discuss an underlying mechanism to explain why it might be happening.

With that said I don’t have an answer as to why it happens or how to stop it, but I think there’s not a lot of substance behind the argument that propylene is the cause just because it showed up on the chromatogram.

No disrespect intended.

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Fair enough, I contrived my opinion based on a conversation I had with a chemist friend of mine, he explained his reasoning to me, but to be honest it was over my head at the time. I’ll talk with him tomorrow and ask him more about why he feels that way. The biggest thing I remember was “even at ppb level you’d see weird stuff happen”

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