Where are you getting $2000 a month from this? I get another member brought it up, asked and answered it was for a completely different service, even spelled out exactly what it was. That’s not for the phone we are talking about.
And they would see… that you use Signal / Briar / or just Tor and not see that those services are even in use. And there is no Verizon backdoor app installed so support can see what you’re running.
I am sure you have seen some apps cannot be disabled on a cooked phone.
They do, but Voip is painful over tor, voice and text messages ait tho.
Wut? No. Summit was shilling them for a bit too. Though it does look like our SEO is the top results for these guys right now.
Hey I hope at least this discussion has let people know there is an alternative (Pixel+GrapheneOS) to accepting spyware and malware. 7 Pro 256gb is ~$1000 on Amazon, 2k (one time) from MLABs. You pay for your own cell service. I have the 6a 128gb, $320 on amazon, $1100 MLABs. Plus 5% off if you get it here. For someone who doesn’t know how to flash a phone or understand the idea of grapheneOS but knows they don’t want to be spied on anymore it’s not a bad deal. I don’t think it comes with any official support but I would be willing to bet they would help you get started using it, go over the features, explain the security concepts, and get you on your way. (if they wont I would)
Great to know, thanks. I thought someone wrote it was created by two F4200 members and someone who was part of Knox. I assumed from that info that this thread was its first public exposure. And I didn’t know it was sold by Summit previously.
This is the type of info @Mlabsindustries should include in marketing docs. If only they were willing to create docs to inform their potential customers.
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I just edited my post you quoted to remove my incorrect understanding.
Good to know they wrap with Orbot (I assmed that was the case). But I wasn’t clear about VoIP. They wouldn’t want to just wrap with Orbot and try to use UDP tunneling to anonymize VoIP over Tor. The QOE would be pretty poor I assume (just like trying to use e.g., Skype over Tor on a computer).
It’s true that previously VoIP over Tor had poor QOE, but now things are different. Check out Donar for VoIP over Tor in a distributed manner over multiple concurrent circuits (what Donar devs call “links”). It’s still early days for Donar but it’s very promising.
I admit I don’t know much about phone security, but I was able to disable undisableable apps with “Package Diasabler”
It even has options to disable all “bloatware” automatically so you don’t even have to know what to look for.
You can pretty much disable everything on the phone with that.
The only option I seen for the phone was the Pixel 6a which was $1300 and the page got locked so can’t really see if they updated it.
I did noticed it was mentioned on one other website and that was only by using image search. It was from a cannabis equipment supplier selling the phones (summit) Which I mentioned was odd also as it was another cannabis related site. It’s still true that this is the only page it’s talked about.
I do admit I found a couple things funny and kept running with it for the fact (stuff that was obviously about other “services” I stopped mentioning, but others kept mentioning it anyways) But no one was able to satisfactorily refute that stuff (mlabs was refusing or unable to respond and only refutes was “I think”) so I didn’t find it misleading.
Can’t say I was playing respectable at times, but some people I find you can’t have respectful conversations with and it’s best to just make fun of them about the nonsense they keep posting.
If you clicked on the link on the web page to goto the secure phone that was the exact page you were brought to with the monthly plans and you had to click an additial link to buy it outright even.
Great so the minimal plan is $1000 a month, 1500, and the ol mighty $2000 a month option… Id love to see the actual payments for your phones @sidco
please so us some receipts that you really endorse this phone… Id love to know the person that has the disposable income to blow 1000-2000 a month on a cell phone. They must got a private plane too.
Keep in mind even buying it outright the phone would be marked up over $900 a piece and the only thing they do is load it with stuff that is freely available and open source on the internet.
The reoccurring monthly service you keep referring to is not for the phone. Its for large companies of like 100+ employees for continued policy audits and training, and reflashing of the phone. It is not for you or a single person. The phone is a one time cost, not a monthly cost.
Part of the security model you want to employ is keeping other apps away from Signal. If one of the hundred preloaded apps is a backdoor or has a security vulnerability then whatever happens on signal is already lost.
Yes, the 6a. Again, not a monthly cost and that was never their pitch for you. The commission was never going to be a game changer, I am shilling their phone because I genuinely think it’s a good idea (minus the direction they recently took, which is why I pulled the banner, explained a few posts back).
? I dont see how that would work unless it is actively running in the foreground killing apps as they try to spawn. It also phones home and is not open source. You are better off with ADB if you are comfortable with a command line, but that can easily (easily!!!) Brick a phone so you better have a recovery plan. Even that doesnt really uninstall the app, it only works for the current user. The app and code is still on your phone (just like the disable option, which again, is just the current user) https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Reading the armchair/backseat tech paranoia from y’all is some of the best comedy.