I guess i maybe assumed that those kind of positions with the qualifiers and cannabis experience would be valuable enough that the appropriate people would be in those spots. Honestly i’ve probably never really thought that all the way through because i see how that’s kinda silly to think as well. I guess i shouldn’t be surprised though that the cannabis industry has experienced or unknowledgeable people in key positions i guess its just the growing pains of it all and probably id feel it or see it in any other new industry
Yep, we were seeing THCa in our disty and edibles with those guys all the time lol needless to say, we do not test with them often. only if we want some vapes turned around quick or something. GCA seems to know what they’re doing the most out of every lab we have tested with. But they are sooooo fucking slow. And still provide inconsistent results.
Anyone tracking on this…
We have been working with a new lab (Fleur De Lis) and finally seeing some consistent results. Super quick turnarounds too.
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But how about the CBD converter boys getting shut down out here???
That’s what they fucking get. Selling kilos of disty for $18,000 that were converted from $250 kilos of CBD. Byeeeee!
Wow that’s who I am referring to lol. They never get us results in 3-5 days. Ever.
So weird how everyone has different experiences with all these labs.
It has taken a lot of teeth-pulling and firm phone calls to get our turnaround times within a week. So not surprised others are experiencing longer than usual wait times with them.
Ayyyy we knew almost immediately that’s what it was for, well figured at least until we got confirmation, I had a suspicion a few labs were doing it a few months back when i had people shopping us for Disty at 15-18 a litre and then started tell me they were getting it at 8.50.
How they didnt think this would happen is beyond me.
Ill personally recommend cloud 10, amazing turnaround time, great to work with. they had us tour their place and spoke with our chemists were super open about methods , verification etc. The guy that runs the cannabis side is a cannabis head with a good amount of industry experience which is hard to find. cares very much about what they do and are doin some really cool stuff other labs aren’t yet.
Lol I am right there with you man. Idk how they thought they’d get away with it. And their defense is “we didn’t know it was illegal” lmao.
thanks for the rec! I actually haven’t tried cloud 10 out yet. FDL is a new lab that we have been using and they have been awesome so far. I’ll give cloud 10 a try as well!
super sloppy and lazy work they though they just would never get a METRC audit? Like wtf they flagged themselves by doing that. but BIG ups to whomever was " The reporter requested to remain anonymous dueto concern about retaliation by Delta Extraction and other members of the cannabis industry."
Yeah the labs are pissed about this lol… If they could just enforce a standard testing method across all labs, or a governing state lab to check these labs’ work, they could alleviate most of these issues. Asking these labs to check each others work (when there are no standards to even check them against) is asking for a clusterfuck.
It’s called proficiency testing (PTs), sending labs blind samples with known potency. CO, OR, CA and most other established rec/med states require yearly PTs for all accredited analytes like cbd/thc(a), all pesticides, solvents.
Would not surprise me if MN didn’t have a PT program yet but they will shortly I’m sure. Keeps at least some resemblance of accurate methods… but what they really need to stop potency juicing is to require labs to digitally record sample weight straight from the scale without anyway for a human to fudge the weight values… Because that’s how potency gets juiced 99% of the time… Right at the sample weighing step.
I doubt they (MN or any other state) will ever actually require standard “USP/ASTM like” methods for testing cannabis potency/pesticides due to the complex/varied sample types and honestly low profitability of testing relative to pharma/medical/cGMP testing.
I had a very similar experience touring Cloud 10’s facility, very impressive. A lot of excellent gear and the transparency was very refreshing. I would agree its also nice to have a cannabis centered individual as a sort of liaison between the cannabis and chemistry side.
Ohhhh boy… So next month the state is mandating testing for Vitamin e acetate.
My first thought was like everyone’s. “No big deal, we aren’t adding that shit to anything. We don’t even have it anywhere on site.”
Well we have now had two tests come back with over the limit of vitamin e acetate… in carts. So, naturally, we thought it must be the terpenes. We tested those by themselves (at the same lab) and they came back clean. Tested the distillate by itself, and that came back around 90ppm of vitamin e acetate. The limit is 0.5ppm.
I am at a loss. This is becoming exhausting.
Is this something anyone has seen before?? Why in the hell would there be vitamin e acetate in our distillate? Or could this be the lab misidentifying shit again?
If this is straight distillate into a clean tube, there’s no way there’s vit e acetate in there. AFAIK, the acetate is thermally labile and generally wouldn’t withstand distillation parameters. so yeah, likely misidentifying shit again. ask them to show you the chromatograms. ask for retention time and wavelength for both the vit e acetate standard and your sample.
I wish i could use that one