common sense tellls me that green tax type places dont have any proprietary tech.
straight from the horses mouth…so athena says its IBA only, hmmmm.
i have used many rooting powders, gels ect over the years all IBA only and they were ok, but when i first used elite91 clones a couple of years ago i noticed a distinct difference.
everything rooted quicker and more vigarous but the real tell tale was the super thick and chunky roots and the over callousing when the cuts were over exposed to the hormone. no IBA has ever done this.
then just recently i tried athenas cuts and it acts very like elite91 clones not like a normal IBA only.
Yea I’ve used that hormex 0.8 powder a bunch of times and rootech 0.5 a bunch of times and never seen callousing like that. I’ve only seen that the hormex liquid with NAA
Athena cuts is probably a mixture of both and for regulations or some shit they can only say IBA
If we buy a shitload from China I’ll send some your way
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I could use a 1000 of them.
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They look nice!
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Yeah, it takes twice as long to develop roots compared to hormex liquid.
In plugs and the cloner.
I hate gels for cloners…
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Did u run these yet @FicklePickle? Any input? How are they?
Great results with using hormex in the water for 5 days at 3ml a gal with 20ml clonex at 5.8 ph. Water change after day 5 with no hormex and 40ml clonex. Pic Is day 19 from snipped and placed. Used calcium hypochlorite recipe at 1ml per gal for sterilization
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I literally take a pitcher and scoop 4gals of nutes strait from my main veg Rez (jacks 3-2-1 and AGT-50) pour in the turbokloner and plug in the cycle timer (1min on 3 mins off) cloner drained and reset weekly, these are 15 days on the cloner today.
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I was at this even in Vermont and there’s a start up there called IMIO.co, they had samples of this rooting inoculant that has a handful of PGPR bacteria in it that have produced some monster results. I got a tube f the stuff for free and I’m going to mess around with it. I love the idea of using microbials as long as the metabolism and science is understood.
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#KoMAclones - @cuttingedgesolutions Micro at 2.5ml per gal and Bloom at 5ml per gal in RO water PHd to 5.7-5.9 … pump timer set on 45min on 15min off… T5 light about 2ft above canopy on 24hrs… water temp low-mid 70s… when i take clones i ONLY take clones that are thick and woody… if you want big healthy fast starts you need big healthy fast clones, plain and simple… when i take cuts i expose with one blade swipe the cortex on one side of the clone about 2in long, essentially just making a spot for the cut to throw roots without having to go thru the epidermis…i clean up the nodes on the sides with straight cuts and make a 45cut on the bottom with a center cut up the stem about a 1/2 in…i like to have 3-4in of stem sitting in the cloner… i cut all the leaf tips a little less than 1/2 way up themselves… it will take 7-14 days for most cuts, some fickle cuts can take 14-21 days👌🏼 most of these techniques for cutting the clones and trimming them up is common place from garden to garden… CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN…thats everything, your water, the cloner, the table you use, the snips you use, the razor blades, all of it needs to be CLEAN! think of it as a surgery you are doing on yourself, would you want it clean and sterile?
I’ve used this method for years in aerocloners and it works great
In the past, I managed the production of 20,000 clones per month. We had a great success rate, around 98% if I remember, using ez-cloners and clonex solution at 5.6 ph and 68F. We also would soak the clones in clonex rooting hormone for 15-20, a trick someone taught me. Results were phenomenal! No cover was necessary but the veg room environment was dialed.
Now, for my own personal plants, I use wild honey and water as a rooting agent and still soak for 15-20 min. And I use rapid rooters or seedling mix hydrated with a half dose of Cytoplus and VAM from BioAg. Under a dome with a heat mat for 1 week, important not to open the dome for the first week, vent the dome for week 2. Boom, rooted.
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Interesting. Can you elaborate on that? Is it the European honey bee in wild hives? Or one of the many other species of bees who also make honey, just in smaller amounts? The antimicrobial properties of honey might be what makes it work.
I remember reading something on ICMag 15 years ago about how wild unprocessed honey will ferment over time and produce some byproducts that are good for rooting. That’s as far as I can elaborate. My honey came from a friend of a friend’s apiary in a 32oz. jar. It’s maybe 5 years old and the results are no different than clonex, which was the most successful non-organic solution I’ve tried.
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That’s awesome. I had no idea honey could be used that way. My girlfriend’s family has a hundred or so hives if you ever run out. You probably know the stuff at the grocery store is fake.
Thank you for the offer, it’s very appreciated! I am probably good for a few years, I have about 16oz set aside just for cuttings. I don’t buy honey from the store, farmers markets and friends only.