Let me put it to you like this, chief.
This whole thread worth of questions you’re positing is enough evidence that you should not be using DCM.
DONT USE DCM EVER ESPECIALLY NOT IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING
Let me put it to you like this, chief.
This whole thread worth of questions you’re positing is enough evidence that you should not be using DCM.
DONT USE DCM EVER ESPECIALLY NOT IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING
CHIEF!
I get it, ![]()
Is it some kind or flash-mob?
I won’t use it, i got it.
like 5 people said it already and i responded - that i’ve understood
It’s not really add much to conversation when same thing said over and over.
I’m bout to work with TIBA in house, that’s something new - now lets chat about shouldn’t do tibal in house hehe ![]()
(joke)
Sounds like you should find a new hobby to me.
From the perspective of someone that’s known people who have died, and were experts in their field it pisses me off when some doofus is like:
“Yeah I don’t know fuck all about using pyrophorics, carcinogenic compounds, flammables/explosives, but I’m gonna do it in my apartment because I don’t give a fuck about my safety or the other people that live in my building”
And then add a
emoji like it’s some kinda joke.
Whack
probably wont
tho i doubt it would be a disaster if like 1ml of tibal is going fire - i mean yeah its bad, but in this example i doubt it would do much scary stuff. (worst scenario broken glass)
practice and study first ofc
Bout to do nuclear fission of splitting the atom in house ![]()
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ah shit boys we got us another radioactive boyscout.
I was going to respond to your comment in the other thread; You went straight from pondering how to use a nasty carcinogen to touting how easy pyrophorics sound as an alternative.
Big yikes man. Being complicit around chemicals that have no respect for human life (yours and those you are not authorized to unknowingly put under their guise) is low and lame. Go look for a lab job where you can do these things in a properly funded and secured environment.
Ok, yes i’m sorry that i’m interested in studying.
And assumed that TIBAL would be “in some way” less of pain in the ass to do SOP.
(No fumes like DCM, only dangerous thing is flask “boom” and shatter glass flying everywhere)
Yes, sorry of this “assumption”, but it is in some way “less” annoying to deal with.
Yes - no oxygen or water.
If argon is near, good practice with TIBAL before SOP, i think it MIGHT be done in home, but for 90% sure shouldn’t.
BUT it’s possible to just to everything right, and not get
of glass. Which is as i said - should be LESS dangerous in LOW SCALE, than dealing with DCM.
IT"S ALL JUST CHAT HYPOTHESIS
Also guys please don’t be rude - i’m not “daredevil”
or how you call it. Just want to study, help, and chat.
C’mon, let’s all be friends ![]()
I never put someone’s life at risk, not yet at least
(and talking about 1-10ml of TIBAL, i doubt it can make such a big
or
to hurt anyone but me, c’mon)
Let’s put all that “it’s dangerous” aside. We all here must understand the important of safety, but we chat about dangerous reagent.
TIBAL SOP in a way… In my head looks something like:
Dry CBD + HEPTANE with CaCl2,
Dry all glass vessels with hair-dryer and vacuum > then refill 3-5x times with argon
(important to leave small amount of vacuume)
Do syringe sparge with argon, refill 3-5x times.
Take some ML of TIBAL, (i guess it should be not that big of an ammount %)
squirt it thru rubber stopper.
Everything cold like -5c,
react for some time (idk how long)
then neutralize - as some dude said regular water should\may neutralize
(BUT TIBAL REACTS WITH WATER, SO I’ll NEEDS TO FURTHER STUDY)
I’ve used it lots, nasty stuff because you can’t really eliminate your exposure and masks are not totally effective. That being said you don’t really have a great alternative and industry uses it all the time for many processes. Here is how I dealt with it on a commercial scale. I made a huge hood with air sucking from fresh air room through hood and out of work space. When I had to go in the hood area or pour the solvent into something you can use a brand new chlorinated cartridge from Honeywell in your mask to minimize exposure, but those cartridges need to be changes very often. As soon as you sense any new level of resistance breathing through the cartridge get a new one. Also store them in a clean zip lock bag when you’re not using it. As for your cold trap you could get 99% to condense using lots of dry ice in a big trap, just put a snorkel by the exhaust of your pump to eliminate any fumes.
The other big issue with dcm is getting it out of your product. Don’t think you’re gonna just raise to the boiling point of DCM and it will leave <1000ppm residual. You will probably need to run in rotor at 120c at like 25inhg to get most to separate. I’ve even had it left in product after distillation and had to do other processes to get the remaining out.
Didn’t get that part… What kind of snorkel? Can you attach a pic?
I’ve been told that after SPD (not fancy Wiped Film Distillation), “SHOULD” deal with all DCM, is that true?
If THC comes at 200c ±…
In general I don t pull vacuum on dcm or pentane. Or very light vacuum to get maximum
T delta diffract between boilingpoint and condensers most will work gist fine at 40C
For high volume dom exposure a full face with a hose and a 4cfm diafragma vacuumpump does wonders yes your dragging a hose but place it on a hose are like in the self wash carwash
And it s pretty ok
Yes it does BUT do a good purge run
Meaning distill without vacuum till 120C
Once evaporation boiling is not visible
Clean catch flask out or place in dry ice
Then pull a vacuum check for condensate
And aggressive boil once this slows
Clean out all catching flasks from trace dcm
You do not want dcm inside a rotary vane pump it will chew on the seals quick
I can confirm it fcuks the seals on your pumps
This is why thread is created, to hear opinions on subject, which is not written on wiki. To “study\learn”.
And non of the reagents above was used ever, or will be. Safety of others were not threatened.
Please stop viewing me as a person who would, i’m gentleman. It’s offensive
Amounts of likes on comment gives me idea on how salty future4200 is
But i understand that @TheGratefulPhil is a good guy and says it because cares for me and others.
Everyone be safe ![]()
Difficult to get any advice around here without getting an ear full of how stupid one is. Little bit of DCM fumes never hurt anyone, mechanics use it every day in brake cleaner. Defiantly not doing anyone any favors in terms of their health, but not the end of the world.
And after 20 years of proving how tough you are by inhaling said fumes and perishing from heart cancer, maybe you’ll reconsider. I don’t like the non-chlorinated cleaner, but there’s a reason it’s being phased in to replace the traditional stuff.
Lmfao
There’s a massive difference between partial DCM vapor from brake cleaner in a 5000sqft garage with 20’ ceilings and a tiny apartment with zero ventilation surrounded by hundreds of other people.