HHC Distillate Kilos - $1,100/kg HHC, $1,200 HHCO

Tissue issued :slight_smile:

I love consumer feedback

I never got someone’s acetate and I am sad panda

XD gimmie these lungs on a limited timeframe yo

2 Likes

For me very similar to d9 in effects. Light headband effect in the frontal lobe and ocular pressure tension fading. Then a nice relaxed similar to “indica” feeling high.

Mixed a blend with cbt, cbn, and venom og terps and now its super relaxing.

Plan on making some gummies for xmas present to a friend with cancer. Rso get expensive for her.

5 Likes

CBT is so underestimated still my favorite new cannabinoid I’ve tried. But glad to hear successful head highs. I have edibles reports that are positive.

RSO for a penny in Oklahoma when it’s available. Comes and goes.

2 Likes

What I will add is depending on how I felt prior to ingesting it seemed to affect me. 1st time I was tired from work so it was a heavier feeling, yet still clear. 2nd time I was just relaxing being lazy and it was more speedy high…still clear.

2 Likes

In this particular case, the 9S diastereomer is essentially dead weight.

3 Likes

right on man! I appreciate the kind words, and I’m glad everything made its way to ya safe and sound. Enjoy!

2 Likes

buuump.

We’re dropping the price to $5,000/kg for individuals and $4500-4700 depending on quantity.

1 Like

Removed.

1 Like

bump, still got kilos on the shelf

3 Likes

If you’re not forming an organometallic compound, then how are you performing this reaction? This mechanism makes an organometallic compound (I’d be happy to provide a mechanism). Palladium on carbon is basically surface activated carbon with palladium on the surface, but it’s not necessarily bound to it, and if you give it any ligands, it can coordinate and come into solution. If you didn’t pull it out with a silica plug or chromatography, you can very well distill an organometallic palladium species; organometallics are volatile and can codistill.

I know it’s expensive and it’s a pain in the ass, but you have a responsibility to test for possible contaminants, especially ones that you used in your reaction. Palladium is serious stuff and there’s a reason it’s allowable threshold is so low; it performs catalysis like crazy and can cause serious short and long term health hazards. Do not play this game with someone’s body.

You’re reaping the benefits of $5,000 a kilo, standards are an r&d cost; $500 to validate your methods is reasonable.

5 Likes

I would like to hear more of the ligand thing
Pd/c is used all over for cbn and thc remediation and I never heard about it crossing distillation bridges in vapor form

4 Likes

So it depends on the d election count of the palladium, d8 transition metals (typically in the 4d row and lower) will have square planar geometries; square planar geometry is fantastic for catalysis because you can do oxidative addition and reductive elimination reactions due to the orbital symmetry; couple these together by having a reagent or reaction that does the other half and you have a catalytic cycle.

However, with coordination chemistry, you can get “stuck” with certain ligands. There’s a few ways to do this, d6 electron transition metals do not have labile ligands and they don’t ‘pop off’ very quickly. Some ligands are hard to remove (oxide ligand with a -2 charge). The most common is polydentidic ligands where a molecule can bind to two or more coordination sites. These can bind even labile metals because you need all ligand sites (usually lone pairs) to uncoordinate simultaneously, which is unlikely. This is basically what happens when your catalyst degrades; it gets stuck in these lower entropic states and either needs to be chemically regenerated by other processes or disposed of.

Because the allowable levels of palladium are in the ppb range, even these minuscule side reactions can make their way into a short path and codistill which is why you need to test it!

4 Likes

I think I’ll make a separate thread about these organometallic reactions because the chemistry is really cool and powerful, but should be taken seriously

3 Likes

O please do
I start to get nervous over these reactions lately
For producers but now also the consumer
And it needs to be cleared
@kcalabs what’s the option on testing on these precious metals ?

4 Likes

The best option, in my opinion, for testing of the various catalysts is to third party test with one of the reputable elemental analysis labs in the country, such as Galbraith.

We catch a lot of BS from people saying it is irresponsible to test conversion materials without testing for catalysts. Quite frankly, there are already established laboratories with robust validated methods that should be sought out for this kind of testing. We’ll build out our capabilities over time, but we’ve decided to focus on the accurate analysis of the cannabinoids in these materials. Arguing with an elemental lab that they should be able to test conversion cannabinoids and differentiate between the various isomers, stereoisomers, diastereomers, enantiomers like we do is basically the same premise. Some labs choose to devote limited R&D resources to certain methods over others.

The real issue is that this testing should be performed by the manufacturer and the regulators should catch up to the market to require such testing. Self-regulation requires processors to seek out reputable labs for the specific testing they know they require. The one-stop shop model works well for plant material, but testing complex conversions requires greater expertise and is more difficult to find all under one roof.

19 Likes

Anyone find alternative hydrogenation routes that don’t use metal catalysts? I have some ideas.

1 Like

This is a for sale thread, not a discussion about how to run reactions, I’d recommend posting this in another thread.

8 Likes

Sorry. I got lost in the discussion and forgot this started as a sale thread. :clown_face:

2 Likes

My apologies if this is question is just me being dense.

Looking at this chromatogram, is it accurate to assume these two large peaks (49% and 43% by area respectively) are the chiral HHC compounds eluting? Furthering to that, if it is, can we identify which isomer is which peak yet?

4 Likes