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Also we are getting our material columns to crash out without even soaking

This stuff came back above 95% thca. I might have a video of us trying to dissolve product and it dropping out crystals while we are trying to dissolve the old product. Something changed from 2020

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how were diamonds a new thing just a few years ago and nobody had seen it and now its common? my first crash waas kinda accidental leaving a tube full and even now most smokers in my state are clueless. They still havent seen a diamond or understand anything. The dispensary is mostly trying to hide info not share it.

None of that has anything to do with what’s happening. It happens covered, sealed, in the oven, whatever. Dude, it’s not the process. Get that out of your head, please.

Aren’t you about to do a class with a bunch of people who do have the problem? Are you saying that they don’t know what they are doing too?

Honestly, it seems like you’re trolling to a degree.

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Sounds like you’ve been drinking the koolaid

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With just a saran wrap I leave trays out like that.
SEEDED
And they don’t crash that fast.

It’s not the process.

And I’m not getting mad or yelling or anything either. You’re still my homie and I’m just discussing. That’s why I’m leaving profanities out, also.

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If I do a class, why would I tell anyone that they don’t know what they are doing? I’m not saying you guys don’t know what you are doing either. If anything I’ll ask questions and demonstrate what I do to compare. Maybe then it will become obvious what is causing it to happen to them. I’m not trolling I’m genuinely sharing what I see as the cause for said effect. I can demonstrate said effect as well to prove that for example, adding water to the butane/extract will cause thca to drop out or letting a solution cold crash by off gassing and monitoring the temp to show the correlation. I don’t think anyone is monitoring the collection pot temp of what it is truly inside when this fast crash happens in the pot

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what’s your heater temp set to?

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We have a thermocouple in our collection. It’s an impurity in the gas, the rapid evaporation presumably caused by an impurity is an endothermic reaction. The temperature change of the solution changes the solubility of THCa, which precipitates out quickly aka fast crash. It can happen in a sealed jar or Pyrex too, but the telltale is the temperature of the container.

It’s unusually cold compared to gas that isn’t contaminated (or possibly ran though 10A molsieve’s??).

We have batches days apart where we’ve changed solvent tanks and gotten wildly different results with the same material and same SOP.

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I have a 50/50 tank thats from before this all started and it never cold crashed before… so I’m not sure why butane would when that never did.
I still have 20lbs of it plus 15ish lbs of non spicy butane.
I can put that into a jar with fast crash issues and it mitigates the crash.
This stuff boils off faster and causes a cold crash, but it’s not the same as it was its more reactive…

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on topic= does the canned butane have this issue? I used to refill via cases of whip it

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Does anyone have a ceramic membrane that they can filter or distill the gas through?

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110f but my lines are not insulated so I end up around 80-100f. I use a manifold to redirect heat to either column or vessel or all together in one loop.

I don’t do runs as big as the other guys so if they’re stacking runs, each run brings about 90% thca and very little sauce into the pot. At the end of a couple runs you have a highly concentrated extract in the pot so maybe that’s why they would need hotter temps to keep the extract dissolved

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If something is not fast crashing then the concentration of thca is not high enough. Test each one if possible to compare and see

One thing I see is we got better at purifying, growers got better at growing, and maybe, just a thought, the gas got cleaner as well

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I can see in the picture the frosting on the bottom. I’m guessing you’re injecting cold through them and it’s probably fresh frozen material as well. When you inject cold, it will drop out and redissolve thca as it moves through the biomass. Since that plate restricts the flow slightly, thca can start to accumulate there. That’s my guess at what I see in the picture

So. If people have been doing exactly as he is, myself, and others. And nothing has ever been an issue. Now, all of a sudden, we can’t operate in the same way as before?

I literally have the same equipment, even don’t run as cold as I did before, and it has happened recently. In the same equipment, ran the same way, even by me, and there’s a difference in how it operates. I’ve been running copious amounts of FF for quite a while, this has never happened until as of late.

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If you guys are all running the same exact way, and having the same exact problem, then perhaps it’s in the SOP? Not one piece of equipment was upgraded from the old SOP? How long have you guys been doing the same SOP for now? I don’t know any parameters of how you guys run so I can’t really say

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THE PROBLEM DIDNT EXIST BEFORE!

Again, are you trolling?

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This is the part that’s frustrating. I’ve been running my extracts at -60 for almost 8 years now. I’ve been making diamond since 2016 early. The only thing that’s changed in our SOP is whether we use called crashing or not back in the day I used to cold crash to help because getting jars to crystallize was not very easy. Now stuff crashes out at room temperature.

Are you saying I need to run warm and thca won’t drop out in my columns. Because I took the chiller off our material columns to test that theory. Also ran -10f butane instead of -60. Guess what it still crashes out instantly.

You really are starting to sound like murphdawg.

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