Nice iMac.
Lol @ using the Tor branded browser to shop for drugs and hide your identity on this forum… and complaining about synthetic drugs.
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Don’t buy it?
Caveat emptor.
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I was just writing a request for a description of experience after “bioassay” for a knowledgeable THC user.
Were you on the ground and unable to move during the intense period….and , as it wore off , or the onset…was it anything like THC?
Extra question: When you say it hit you hard, do you mean an intense hallucinogenic experience? It sounds like you could talk and move ??? So there is your experience of what happened, can you girlfriend describe what she saw…
For instance like an acute dose of Salvia, the k-opioid agonist…what the user thinks happened and what the observer sees is two different things.
Best review of
CUMYL-PEGACLONE (SGT-151) : https://doi.org/10.1002/dta.2752
Reports of severe hypotension suggest it is way off in “Edgewood-land”.
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Aight I wil have a try I’ll start with past experiences with drugs etc
Ive been smoking cannabis for about 20 years now, and have had many different and large doses of drugs in my life.
I have used and past out on GHB, I have used Amfetamines prescribed and reacreational.
I experienced coke, schrooms, ketamine, salvia, dmt, benzos, opiods
Currently I only smoke cannabis, at least 26%+ strains daily from wake and bake to sleep massive thc intake, I get semi high even vaping crystals I still function normally.
I eyeballed the dose, it couldnt have been more than 100mg probably less than that, across a joint with 26%+strain and sigaret.
A few hits in and a warm tingly feeling went up around my body, hearth rate went up the come up was super fast, it felt more like smoking coke with a little bit of an mdma come up a very speedy high only faintly similar to thc.
At the moment it felt like all the drugs known hitting me at once hard like x50 I was coherent and present in time and space, but had a difficult time fighting not to lose my shit, while telling my girl dont smoke that.
Because I was so shocked and slightly in panic at the substance and shocked how it hit so hard, I bassicly was like hell na, never nope wtf this is not good (at the substance/high)
Because my girl has been with me and had known me over 10 years+ she has never seen me shocked about anything.
She for a moment thought I meant this is not good as in im not good, so she said should I call an ambulance.
This actually freaked me out and made me actually panic a bit like, do I need an ambulance?I asked out loud, Nah fuck this what are you thinking went trough my head, keep calm take charge.
Told my girl to keep kalm and don’t call ambulance, told her slightly freaked out throw away that bag, and throw away that joint (I didnt want my dogs or my girl contact with that stuff, while I was going only god knows how hard)
This al was from the first 2 hits.
I wanted to get up and move around, but my girl kinda held me back on the sofa and put her arm around me and helped to calm me down a bit.
Few minuts in I calmed down to what I described as the same feeling as when I almost pass out on GHB but manage to stay awake.
Uncontrollable hand movement/ uttering the prahses: holyshit fuck never hell no wtf in a sort of loop. Sort of still knowing were I am and what im doing, but not in enough control to stop being weird idk
This took another 5 to 10 minuts and ended in the most extreme case of munchies I felt, my whole body mind and soul needed something sugar anything, came up begun drinking some soda, still a bit shocked but also laugingh and feeling a bit euforic happy.
At about 20 minuts in I was already returned to a normal-ish high.
Thanking my girl for staying calm and beleving in me.
felt a lingering sense of accomplishment after that it stuck to the next day like fucking hell I survived that shit lol, also had very vivid dreams that night.
Had no hallucinations, although my mental state was hard to maintain (I would describe it as keeping it together trying to function in a 1000mg mdma trip)
She recalled the event the same as me, only miscommunication and the shock in my eyes caused her to be like wtf he fighting demons😂 I bassicly was fighting that demon powder.
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Was it in poeder form ?
Color ?
Or a syrupy oil ?
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Powder, slightly off white yellow ish.
From what I could find online the slightly yellow one was reported as stronger but idk
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Shieskebab, thank you …really appreciate your candid account. Last question, did you feel that the drug effects lingered a bit, for a few days?
I think that description may well become famous.
Best regards,
Note added: Your description of feeling like a hit of coke and mdma (both which act on the dopamine system)…and the rather short time course of 1/2 hr or so…makes me wonder. Since you got this stuff off the web with no real idea WHAT it was…do you think it may have been a synthetic KHAT or Bath Salt and not a spice? They are far more off in Coke/MDMA land than the Cannabinoid drugs.
Descriptions of synthetic Khat trips are so much like what you describe:
Take all the bad attributes of ecstasy, PCP, LSD, cocaine, methamphetamine: lump them together, and that’s what you get with bath salts,” ( Louisiana Poison Center ) While mephedrone acts like methamphetamines in increasing dopamine concentrations, MDPV mimics the way in which cocaine inhibits the reuptake of dopamine, resulting in the brain staying flooded with dopamine,
Almost exactly how you describe, also described as very difficult to keep your shit together. You may have got slammed because you smoked it.
My recollection of descriptions of full agonists of Cannabinoid receptors or at least CB1 agonists, is total immobility for hours time course? However, I see from more reading suggested by shiekabab, that this class of CB1 agonists is referred to as short time acting.
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Effects slightly linger but it could also be the shock of being slightly amazed and scared for the substance, like I said it felt like an accomplishment of some sort, winning some big battle type feeling 
The adb butinaca came from a reasonable trusted site, they do everything within the law and with the government trying to do something about RC chemicals I doubt they would send something else.
The powder also matched with the discriptions, yellow-ish offwhite-ish it felt a little oily to the touch.
As far as the short acting high, I came across a handfull of descriptions online that said ADB Butinaca was indeed a short acting one.
And something about more of the newer synth noids being short acting 30min/hour highs.
Making it much more addictive, one report I read said he had to dose about every half hour.
The withdrwals are said to be stronger.
Its supposed to be one of the stronger synthetic cannabinoids.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/noids/comments/15a9f4j/adbbutinaca_dosage_duration_tips/&ved=2ahUKEwiyzZSZy4yFAxWf9wIHHRwgBeQ4FBAWegQIERAB&usg=AOvVaw2ISrzk0JkwmnIoMhnaO3sA here some people are discussing the substance
The initial high was barely related to thc feeling but may be dose related as I eyeballed it I tought: when I use thca I use roughly this much so lets do a little less🤣
After the rush it did turn into a more thc like feeling, euforic, the super munchies part definatly felt related.
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One of the. Secrets of the spice industry is adding oleamide to the consumer product Wich tampers the high a bit but lengthens the high as well
I never figured out the mechanism
And giny pig these substances to little to confirm
Oleamide is a great additive for hasj making thou it gives a greasy feel
Gives a more couch lock sensation
For the cheapest of cheap hasj
I mean those where a max of 10/15 % of oil is loaded on the kief
And the end kg sells for <1000€ /kg
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If that powder you had was pure ADB-BUTINACA, you really could’ve hurt yourself with the sprinkle you put into a joint. The proper dose would be just around a milligram or two, so barely more than specks. Can’t really responsibly dose it as a powder IMO. Glad you’re okay and that you didn’t keep chiefing on that joint!
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Agreed reason I asked powder or oil
We only sell diluted in a carrier oil
Way higher margins and as a result the customers (flower sprayers) are less prone to over dose there products
Since it becomes a very expensive flower
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Yeah I kinda fucked up big time with the dosage😂
I always warn people of synth noids because of all the stories, but never tried any myself so I tought it was time to try.
After two hits, I tasted and smelled it and knew I had a decent hit of it, so I waited for the effects before even thinking of taking another hit🤣
The moment it kicked in I tought to myself never again😂
I feel conflicted about it, I dont like banning stuff, I dont like big government saying what I can and can not buy or do.
Fuckt it legalize heroïne for all I care, but this stuff fuck it ban it and throw people in jail for selling it.
I cant imagen being young and new to the drug scene walking into this shit
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From what I little I could find online, the yellow-ish one is the more pure, where as the white one is probably cut and weaker.
It was strong AF, scared the hell out of me and made sure it was out of reach😂
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Shieskebab: great description of ADB butinica effects…and short time course. I think we should all agree when it comes to full agonist synthetics: there is a dark side to cannabis….and very dark.
Regards,
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I contacted the the site who sold it to me to ask about its purity.
They say the powder is 98% pure.
I estimate multiple 10 to 20mg “flakes” through out the joint.
A few hits in, max 3 draws so probably only the first 10/20mg “flake” got partially heated and inhaled.
From the comments here saying 1mg is already a good/strong dose, I definatly borderline overdosed.
The scène I grew up in was heavy in multiple drug usage bassicly mix and matching most known and upcomming drugs it wasn’t uncommen being on 5-7 different substances at once, we called it Freaking, the people were known as Freakers, it wasn’t uncommen to stay awake for 3/4 days to a week during these freakouts.
Its safe to say these synthetic cannabinoids can and wil fuck up the most experienced drug users mentally at least when not being careful.
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Sadly I am starting to see a trend
So after hhc was launched in europe folks after some time using where like hmm kinda weak
Taraaaa came hhcp and thcp
And this a lot of users liked and where content althou dosing went up along the way
So now those are illegelized and I recomend yust go with thc D9
THEY FIND IT TO WEAK 
So all flowers beeing sprayed as off late
Are full synthetic cannabinoids as well as carts and it s growing fast. I mean FAST
Pffff what the f€&! Is wrong with a nice thc
Don t get this wrong this is growth from CONSUMER demand not fuckery sell as THC
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are these guys not trustworthy?