We typically see around a 75-85% final numbers from our start rate.
IE. 12% trim x 75%efficiency = 9% extracted
we typically get 9-10x concentrate on first pass. So in this scenario we would see 81-90%. Final total cannabinoids
Now truth is. Junk in junk out so the better quality trim makes better oil faster.
So example conversly is
7% trim x 75% extracting efficiency = 5% x9= 45% final total cannabinoids. You can see huge drop off. This means i need to do 2-3rd pass to get up to 85%. I would probably lose 25% or more in crude.
Moral of this story is ALWAYS spend the money on premium trim. It may be priced higher but it is far cheaper than buying cheap
You can pay me now or you can pay me later. Later is ALWAYS more exspensive
Buy the new cup30 it extracts 90lbs/h
Bizzybee FFE recovers 100L/h
And a ychem wiped film will distill 3-4L/h
On a 10 hour day 4 days a week youâll hit your 250L. But damn weâre will you find 3000lbs of cat2 trim a week. Shit thatâs $150k in just trim tax
And $300k in trim. Plus distributor costs.
I donât understand why you would want to potentially double your operation cost by purchasing top notch trim for distillation. If tou pre process and process is right you can turn crap trim nto quality distillate. In one to two passes .
Absolutely. Time is money in this game. If your a serious operator. You can always buy more trim, buy bigger equipt, hire better operators but i can never buy more time. Iâve tried. Lol
You can make bad trim into useable oil but at what cost of time and material.
250L a week is pretty easy to hit. But you need larger process scale extraction equipment. Check the AES kit from Pinnacle Stainless.
Does 80Lbs, nominal, per run. 15-30min run times. Like 160K for the setup.
Easily expandable, and with 5k sqft you can probably get >300L a week done.
Pickup a chemtech KDT-6 dual stage, and youll easily distill that amount weekly as well. If not more.
DM me if you need help with equipment selection.
Ive setup a few spots for large scale production now, nearing 1K L output per week.
Hey saw your post on ethanol extraction, we are currently in the process of figuring out the best direction to go. We need to produce 50/l a week and have the space, the power, and the material to do so. Which direction would you go? Butane or ethanol?
You expecting me to post a equipment list without even paying me any consulting fee?
I listed you a brand already. Do your due diligence unless you wanna pay a consultant their hourly fee to populate an equipment list ahahaha.
Thank you! Currently buy material and pay a lab half to process to crude or shatter for us wholesale, then we SPD it (or sell shatter). This is making it difficult to keep our prices as low as they need to be. The only thing we donât want to do is butane (unless itâs the absolute fastest way to produce wholesale crude amounts).
What? No I did not ask for a list of equipment. I simply asked based on our situation would you go butane or ethanol? We have no problem doing research or paying consultants (we plan on getting a couple to finalize our plansâŚthis is just before we are ready to hire them we need to have a idea ourselves what direction to go and whyâŚthese forums are for that I thought, and not for finding paid consultants to answer a question?)
If you want to DM me your rates and what services you could help with, please feel free.
If You are in a state that allows ethanol in bulk then ethanol is the path to take
You Will Need quiet Some energie for both paths butane or etho
So let that be a factor for location
If You chose ethanol a cascade refrigaration system is nessesary to process at -60 C butane -40 C
For hiring specialist on the matter get one that has worked iT on the Floor not behind a desk
There are Some reasonably priced members on this forum Who know the game Well
Good luck
ETOH all the way. Make sure your consultants know the ins and outs of fire codes. Cant just hire any old âextract artistâ to design a process scale lab. Someone with an actual engineering background.
How are you guys dealing with the massive degumming/dewax/decolor before distillation on the Pinnacle system?
If with low extraction temp, how are you mass balancing the energy to cool the solvent? Seems like once you run out of the 200 gallons in the freezer your day is done.
I havenât seen anyone get near their claimed throughputs without spending another massive amount on filtration or temp control.
Thats why you hire someone with a PE on their team to help design you a facility.
Filteration skids. Control rooms. Walk in freezers.
Any further explanation requires me to be paid my consulting fee to talk about it. I have CA licensed PE stamped P&IDâs and floorplan designs ready to go for those who are serious.
I should add that $1.5million is the ballpark figure that includes the facility buildouts. Itâs easy to get the equipment to do that capacity for much less than that number, but to actually do it right in terms of safety and in compliance with federal, state, and local fire code, you will get close to that number. I have noticed those are the things that 90% of these cannabis startups either donât consider, or donât care about. The hidden costs are general and sub contractors, architectural drawings, 3rd party engineering reviews, technical reports, paying a project manager to make sure all of that gets done. Of course, all of these costs are somewhat variable depending on the suitability of the building where you want to setup a chemical engineering plant. Some buildings are more ready than others.
