I drove by this yesterday
They have a block in every direction closed around where this happened
The whole glass district in DTLA is closed
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Bigger question: Is it appropriate to store large volumes of volatile product in densely populated urban / mixed use areas? Just because you may have a legal property right to do so doesn’t excuse the social responsibility aspect or risk management.
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Definitely not. But most hardware stores keep a stack of propane cannisters on site.
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A reasonable quantity and always stored appropriately in a flammables cabinet.
The scale of one’s operation shouldn’t endanger nearby properties. There’s an appropriate size for each location.
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There are other Downtown LA gas sellers that keep hydrocarbon stock; correct?
I wonder how everyone is storing their gas now and how this will change those business?
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Is anyone regulating mastercases of butane?
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LA has tons of wholesalers. I doubt you’ll see anything change. Business as usual kind of stuff. Especially with zero deaths.
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just normal california shit…hahhahha love it
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Not mastercases per se. But any site with greater than 30 gallons (typical flammables locker) or transporting more than 119 gallons ( max non bulk hazmat single container) should really be looking for engineered storage
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1 mastercases = 96 x 300ml cans.
28,800mls = 7.6 gallons of tane.
One time I was at the distro spot and she was having a semi truck unloaded, the thing was packed full of mastercases on pallets. Way beyond 119 gallons.
Assuming DOT rules change for individual containers? Does onsite storage rules change for individual containers as well?
DOT rules do change for individual packed goods. But the whole load was probably placarded as hazmat.
The storage is typically dictated by local zoning and building code. Easy first steps are flammables cabinet, leak detector, fire suppression in accordance with msds, stored in a shaded, well ventilated area, and not in a sump or basement.
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Ya, so pretty standard stuff.
None of these wholesalers are setup like that, and it doesn’t seem like anyone even cares.
This is the second time this same company has had issues.
And its not just Cali. I bet most smoke shops are sitting on a few mastercases, and the distro houses on a fuck ton of cases, none of them in proper storage
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OSHA and Fire Marshalls in Portland have been dealing with that issue for sometime. (M) occupancy allowed ungodly amounts of small cans on site with no regulation as long as they were under 1lb each.
When I did presentations with them they showed multiple businesses selling the cans that had larger quantities combined than many operators. Some of them were blasting in the back too (2014-16 era).
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I bet some idiot was open blasting in the back and tried to do a dab with a blow torch. If it was from blasting, there was probably no proper ventilation or CLS then the master cases went kablooey. But I must say, that fireball looks pretty impressive. That would take a lot of master cases if it was indeed cans. Im thinking it’s probably more like a room full of 120lbers
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I foresee regulations on cans being sold to consumers (for dabbing) and distributors who sell to consumers like headshops.
Yes you can buy it anywhere but I just thinking dabbing is going to be next in the crosshairs.
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I have a hunch on who it is.