I need you to rewrite this with proper terminology to be able to understand what’s happening. What is BHO origin material?? I am having a difficult time piecing what you’re trying to say together.
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damn has reading comprehension really fallen so low?
Like, they may not be using the correct terminology, but I got what they were on about.
Maybe.
But if you told me “those words are not interchangeable”, I would not immediately go and use them as if they were when trying to clarify.
So my starting assumption is that they are not being used interchangeably…
…that assumption gives poor results (clarity wise), as does alternate.
Almost works, except for the repeated use of
Substitute “butane”, and it doesn’t work.
Unless we are also supposed to assume “origin” doesn’t actually mean “origin”, because the “origin” of any material actually dissolved in the butane is presumably the “ethanol crude” (suggesting maybe actual BHO?!?)
I added butane to ethanol crude, only some of it dissolved, I couldn’t see that until the pressure equilibrated and the boiling stopped
Might be the correct paraphrase.
Or it might be that there was enough residual ethanol in his crude to explain
(Assuming “BHO origin material” means “components/portion of ethanol crude that dissolved in butane”).
I will say that achieving 63K in an attempt to “cold crash” shows dedication to the task.
@ZREIKMIESTER I again encourage you to explore the concept of glass transition vs crystallization, along with anti solvent and salting out.
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Not to get philosophical, but what are words but simple pre-agreed-upon language tokens? meaning tokens?
If one requires the presence of the correct language tokens to understand a communication, is there an argument to be made about substantive understanding?
Context is key, and substance is kind.
To invert the concept, take code switching as an example.
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I have a Rotovap, I extracted with Etho initially, rotovaped it till crude was complete dry of any Ethanol. Then poured it in the column.
I mixed ethanol extracted crude which I later ran through my columns after rotvaping and filtering etc. I had ran about 2 liters of BHO and mixed them.
I picked up a centrifuge today with a perfect rotor for the job it does 21,000 RPM its by Fisher Scientifics. IM going to try and run some ethanol crude in it to molecularly separate the ethanol from my crude, then try to mix it with BHO to see if it corrects crashing.
is there water mixed in?
None at all, water will make your crude turn brown and soupy
Yeah, not sure that’s the correct way of thinking about this…
I’d treat that EHO like you wanted shatter (pour thin and vac) then leave it out to sugar…THEN spin the fuck out of it.
…but please report back whatever you come up with.
So you’re not a loucher? Maybe read up on it…
Water acts as an antisolvent
Did you?
I’m still not certain…
Sounds a lot like EHO + BHO + butane at this point.
I didnt get a chance to re run it today had some new material to extract all day today. I have close to 5 gallons of this EHO spreading it thin would be difficult and time consuming. Im going to try and spread 2 liters on a sheet throw it in the vac oven for a few days, if that doesnt work, im going throw 4 liters of it into the centrifuge ramp it to 21,000rpm give it a spin and see if it can seperate it. Centrifuges are the best for molecular seperation, I know its a little extreme but if I can resolve this issue Ill be able to keep using my EHO process and cold crash it easily. Ill keep you updated on the development
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Yeah I’ve gotten that to happen too. I’ve messed around with that a few times before. I dubbed a consistency a pringle consistency because I used my tshirt press to press the tiny crystals back together into a small slab after tediously scraping the hard as fuck crystals off the dish. I considered melting it but then didn’t because to me that would’ve made the whole thing pointless. I did a 190 proof wash and filtered twice once without powders second round with powders, roto’d, poured into a stainless dish then right on dry ice and a few hours later it was crystals but impossible to remove from the stainless so i had to do the ol’ nitril gloves a few razors and elbow grease. Lost about 1/4 to the gloves.
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I finally did it, finally got ethanol extracted material to cold crash.
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Needs cryogenic tempuratures sub -70c during extraction, terpenes have to be removed for quicker crystallization. Was done in 200 proof ethanol.
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Initially looks like this before before full crystallization, nothing close visually to what final product looks like
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Zreikmiester: It is not clear to me whether you are working with THCA, CBDA , CBGA or some natural plant mixture. If you are extracting with ethanol, you have to realize you are using “polar protic” extraction solution, containing 5% water and extracting biomass (if “dried” is itself 7-8% water). You are extracting the total mixture of what ever is in there. Now since you are in the realm of “polar protic” and with emphasis on the concept “protic” have you ever once wondered “what is the protic state of my extraction mixture, that is to say have you ever considered the pH value of the solution”?
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“Some sort of ester? “ Some sort of hydrate, some- sort of ethanol complex, some sort of heterologous dimer complexes of all cannabinoic acids present, some sort of homologous conjugate base dimer, some sort of stable intramolecular h-bonded state of the cannabinote anion, any thing else that you might think screws up crystallization from polar-protic, ethanol water extract residues?
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