Lol, I’m not a chemist either. What would we get if we used some solved iodized nacl with an ionic bond weakener and bubbled in some bromine / o2 while buffering pH 3 or so.
If you are doing photochemistry, please DM since since I spent about 7 months doing that. I know ways to significantly improve the process.
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Bromine would do the same thing that iodine does. It’s just cheaper and more reactive since it blows off fumes when using it. Its typically sold as percentage bromine in hydrobromic acid. Then you have to buy more. Iodine is easier to handle.
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Would the cl in the nacl be able to react? Or is that stupid. You could theoretically sublimate 45 mg of iodine from a kilo of table salt. How far would that get?
That chlorine is negatively charged. It won’t do anything with the double bond. The entire reason that iodine reacts with the double bond is because it has the ability to place a partial positive charge on one iodine atom. It is electrophilic and can be attacked.
45 mg of iodine will only react with 20 mg of CBD.
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@MyThirdEye_1 was kind enough to share a pretty straightforward way to acquire iodine without all the red tape normally associated with procuring list 1 chemicals. Way more efficient than trying to sublimate it out of table salt. I attached the post below.
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Any body ever tried oxidating in a ethanol solution with laughter gas at high temps ?
Seem so have good oxidation powers when hot
Nitrous oxide I mean
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the real question is would the n2o be recoverable afterwards🎈
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As in the un reacted gas ?
That’s easy folks standing in line to suck the last bit out 
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I have owned several chemical companies. The DEA was not, circa 7 years ago, overly interested in making chemical sellers keep track of list II chemical sales, or even list I chemical sales. In fact, at that time, it seemed to me that their interest was only ever had if one ended up selling a LOT of a list I or II chemical to one lab or one person, and then, only if that lab or person became a person or lab of interest to the DEA, then one had better have done their due diligence. From the standpoint of chemical sales, selling to persons not affiliated with a legitimate lab or school or hospital or just a commercial business of some sort, was not only stupid, it was not easy. This is because most “listed chemicals” are, for purposes of shipping, classified as “hazardous”, and as such, a commercial address to ship to enters into the “due diligence” analysis that all chemical sellers make, if they want to stay in business when they unknowingly sell to an entity that is suspect to the DEA, or the state police. Chemicals like Resorcinol and Olivetol, can catch the interest of the state, very quickly… Regarding Iodine, if you are speaking of Elemental Iodine, it is usually sold as Iodine “prills” or crystals, and they are commonly available online from thE Bay, in quantities up to 1Kg or more. And, just FYI, most of the chemicals sold as “fine chemicals” in the USA, by Sigma (supplier to, and hand in glove associate of the DEA) and Spectrum (through Lab Depot if you don’t want to register with Spectrum) and so on, come from China. Regarding Iodine, I do not expect that lower quality will significantly degrade the quality of your end product, CBN… I am thinking that if you don’t trust the sellers on thE Bay, that you could probably get Potassium Iodide without question from a place like Chemsavers or one a 100 other sellers of less hazardous chemicals. This could be made into solution with distilled water and reacted with Sulfuric acid to yield pure Iodine. There might be a bit more to this, but it would work and with plenty of judicious cold distilled water washing, one could have high quality, no questions asked supply of pure Iodine…
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Hey, thanks for this information. Seems like you’ve been in the chemical game for a minute.
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@Roguelab we have some experience creating thin film to react with medical grade 02 generated 03. nothing ground breaking but i’d think a rotovap thin film with medical grade 02 running continuously would be an easy solution. maybe setup a couple grow lights to blast the rotovap while running.
have you played with this reaction any further or did you move on to sulfur etc?
We’d call a 20-30% CBN end product without deadly residuals a win - and perfect for our application…
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I have n t played with the setup for a while but I came across some info in an other quest that I want to assemble the rig for it will be fed with singlet oxigen this time
Wich can be created in Situ by UV light
And O2 using UV in the 242nm wavelengt i still need to find the right
Lamp for this
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10% can easily be optianed with the first setup in 10 days on crude oil in a
Ethanolic solution
Then distilling this crude can give 50+ distillates if tales are caught with good timing
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thats easy as pie. boil it! and then distill it. you can hit about double what youre aiming for with this method
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Hey @anon93688,
I too have used photochemistry to achieve conversions over several months of experimentation. Would you have time to perhaps chat via e-mail or phone to compare notes and methods? I’m an analytical/organic chemist from academia as well 
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Greetings Roguelab:
I have an interest in UV in my lab. And I have an interest in producing CBN from other cannabinoids. I have some information that will DEFINITELY help you with your search for the right light, and with application of the UV once you get the lamp, with a photocatalyst that works great and is unreactive and is easily filtered out when you are done! And I am going to share the part that cost me 100s of hours of frustration until I figured out what screws everybody up who tries this. So, first things first, your source of 242nm UV light. Here goes: When you are searching, try searching for “UVC lamp”, because the UVC band is 100nm to 280nm. And fluorescent mercury vapor UVC lamps center at 253.7um, they emit 80+% of their light at 253.7um, though they are not that efficient! So at 11nm longer than ideal, they are as close as you will get to the ideal wavelength for what you are wanting the lamp for. And I can tell you from experience that these lamps work for CBN production! I use the 25 watt model. It took me forever to figure this out, but these lamps are only 25% efficient creating light 253.7nm, so, if you buy a UVC lamp that consumes 25 watts of electrical energy, you will only get 5 watts of useful UVC optical power out of it… These “UVC fluorescent lamps” also emit at 180nm, but the quartz envelope does not pass this shorter wavelength, its all coming over at 253.7um. FYI, these are just mercury vapor fluorescent lamps without any rare earth phosphor coated on the inside of the tube, so they emit true at 253.7um from day 1 until they die. So if you search for “UVC lamp” on eBay, you will find a bunch at 253.7nm, very cheap, even pretty powerful, as in 25 watts powerful, lamps. The least expensive tend to 5 watts for less than $4USD, which put out less than 1 watt of useful UVC, up to $21USD for the 25 Watt lamps that put out just shy of 5 watts of useful UVC. UVC LEDs tend to be too high in frequency for our use, with a center of 275nm, though some less honest sellers list these as 265nm, because if you pump them properly, in theory, they emit down to 265nm. I have ordered several LEDs that were supposed to be 265nm, which ALL turned out to be 275nm, and none were powerful enough to produce any reactive oxygen species! REGARDING SAFETY - THIS IS NO JOKE, SERIOUSLY, THE CHINESE SOURCES FOR THE LAMPS ARE GREAT AND RELIABLE and INEXPENSIVE AND DO EMIT RIGHT AT 253.7, BUT THEIR SAFETY GLASSES ARE ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD, AND ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED, EVER! Sorry to yell, but you may feel like that you are OK without eye protection. You will be mistaken if you assume that. Check out “styropyro” on You tube if you want verification. He does proper testing of Chinese protective glasses for various wavelengths, including UVC, with SCARY results. BUY AND USE GOOD AMERICAN OR EUROPEAN MADE UVC GLASSES, SERIOUSLY! OK, more advice for you and this will save you a BUNCH OF TIME and FRUSTRATION - Regular glass and Nitride glass ABSORB UVC at most of the wavelengths are useful for creating CBN! It took me forever to figure this out! I am embarrassed to tell you that I had to check myself several times before I figured out that the glass was absorbing the UV in the useful range! Now, with that out of the way, my next bit of advice: Titanium Dioxide. TiO2 in situ is a photocatalyst, and on its surface, which is where reactive oxygen species do their thing, and carry out redox reactions in situ.! Yes indeed, this is what you want to do! The TiO2 is opaque and thus can easily be filtered out. TiO2 is pretty much insoluble in anything we here in the forum are generally interested in, solvent wise. Next bit of advice: A QUARTZ JACKETED reactor vessel is the shiznet and BECAUSE GLASS ABSORBS UVC, IT IS THE ONLY MATERIAL YOU WANT TO USE FOR THE REACTION! The quartz passes UVC at 253.7um without power loss. So you put your UVC lamp in the part of the reactor where you would normally put the chemicals you are working on. And you use a cheap Bronze Gear pump, $24USD on theBay, because it handles very viscous fluids easily and without much of any corrosion etc. And you get a variable 12VDC power supply of the sort used for the new style RC vehicles, because the motor on these pumps is the same high tech type used on RC vehicles. And you put the cannabinoid solution, in a bucket mixed with the TiO2 and set it up so that your solution of cannabinoids ‘n’ TiO2 just cycles around and around and around the reaction chamber of your quartz vessel where you put your UVC lamp`, over and over until you have the CBN at the max level. I hope that I have saved you a bunch of time. If I did please let me know! If I can give you more info, just let me know and I will do my best to assist you. But you seem to be among the more capable in this forum, so I think you will discover some new things, and if you do, please do share those with me, as I am always wanting to up my game in terms of efficiency! Cheers from Santa Barbara, CA USA! 
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Now what does Titanium dioxide turn into after the reaction is complete?
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Haole white peoples skin at the beach? 
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Wow 
Thank you
You have defenatly taken this to another level . Sorry to hear it took so much research but then again it seems you are content now so the effort was worth it 
I am actually speech less
Thank you again to perfect a. Silly project into something that might be usefull for many
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