Buying a sonicator: Hielscher vs. Industrial Sonomechanics

Oh cool! Another company selling modified coconut oil surfactant at stupid high cost, which requires a 5-6:1 SOR, has max oil load of 5% (w/w), and can’t be kept in a cold fridge or the coconut oil will solidify. Really great product you have there! LOL

By the way, Axxiom is selling their Goo, which I’m pretty sure is the same thing you’re hawking, and Industrial Sonomehica’s hawks, for $600/kg. Just in case anyone wants to spend less, :wink:

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And about your product:

I’m assuming your one part emulsifier uses modified coconut oil as the surfactant…and that you didn’t manufacture it. Because there are now three of you guys (Axxiom, Industrial Mechanics, and you) selling the same product, and I doubt any of your are making it in-house, even though it’s not hard if using Novozymes and Scholar. I bet there is a wholesale supplier out there with or a bioreactor and yeast.

A big issue with your product, if it’s modified coconut oil, like with Goo and ISM’s product, is it’s not stable at low temps. So if you put your emulsion into cold fridge the emulsifier will solidify, ruining the product. I know this because I have tested them and I have seen it happen.

Also, working with modified coconut oil emulsifier is a PITA. It takes forever to heat up so it’s fluid enough to add the dispersed oil phase, seriously affecting work flow.

And IMO, the biggest drawback to using modified coconut oil as the emulsifier is the SOR (surfactant to oil ratio). It’s so high at 5 or 6:1 for distillate that you can only make a 5% w/w dispersed phase (oil load) O/W emulsion.

I make 10% a.i. w/w O.W nanoemulsions with a plant based, natural, GRAS, and clean label surfactnat system I developed, using a Qsonica 2000, in about 45 minutes of processing time for large volumes. My surfactant system is stable even in the freezer, at low and high pH, is odorless, flavorless, and non-bitter. My nanoemulsiosn droplets are <50 nm. And stable for 6+ months without any changes to the emulsion. All at the cost of pennies compared to your fee.

So, what were you saying about your magical product again?

Actually…Industrial Sonomehanics makes their own large horns. The only thing Qsoncia sells Industrial Sonomchanics is their smaller horn.

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