I can get that at my local market, I however dont have celite or anything else at the moment, good work team I hope you’re right! I’ve just been re reading his helpful tips to see if I missed something, i had missed the it’s from a plant part.
1 Like
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/food-science/gum-arabic
http://www.grapeworks.com.au/blog/the-use-of-gum-arabic-liquid-in-winemaking/
Not sure if it plays a role, that’s why I want to ask more details, but I think it might have something to do with it
4 Likes
I’ll look into it more for sure, it does say in the link you posted that it helps maintain color, didnt see anything about stripping it,
1 Like
https://aebusa.myshopify.com/collections/cider-perry/products/arabinol
This site is a gold mine, perhaps ac is not the trick but maybe the product they sell called carbosil, they have tons of finning agents and a good explanation of use, granted it’s in alcohol, we are using butane so the reaction might be different, because wax plug did state it doesnt work the same in ETHANOL vs butane
1 Like
What I meant by the plant thing is wine not the adsorbent…making wine is like making oil
4 Likes
Ah, so is it pvp, or pvpp?
I read on a beer making site that they make pvpp discs for filtration…
Or silica gel like hydrogel or aerogel?
All of the above?
2 Likes
I was thinking along the lines of silica gel and maybe re runs it like chromatography but using butane as the liquid phase.
1 Like
http://lipidlibrary.aocs.org/OilsFats/content.cfm?ItemNumber=40336
This is about plant oils and adsorbants
1 Like
We have been making an iline filter for this. yesterday I tryed silica gel 60, t5 clay and mag sil.
Best result was with the t5 clay. Made a brown extract from trim into a really piss yellow slab.
I only saw colors in the t5 layer in the filter.
Pressure swings will really screw up a filter bed, you need to be very mindfull how you run your system.
8 Likes
That is S w e e t now all we need to see is a butane solution through this method 
1 Like
I was going to start with t5 as well. I really want to try the PVPP that @Dred_pirate suggested threw DM. Glad you decided to join the party Cannawiki(@soxhlet) figured you had all the steel needed as well.
5 Likes
I lurk everywhere 
we have been messing with this for a few weeks now!
8 Likes
This site might be exactly what we need, it explains the thermodynamic properties of absorbing carotenoids, xanthophylls, and pheophythins in rice oil…
5 Likes
Ill post some pics of what I did, Gotta wait for @Indofab to send them to me. He takes lots of pictures.
3 Likes
What about performing the extraction/dewax, then going to a second vessel where you could add tonsil, pressurize the vessel with n2 gas and heat it to better allow the tonsil to absorb the carotenoids?
4 Likes
I’m sure there will be multiple ways to accomplish this, some being better at not destroying the compounds we desire to keep than others, are you thinking that pressurizing with n2 will prevent decarb, or that it will allow us to heat without the butane trying to build additional pressure? Or neither?
1 Like
What solvent did you use to wet the t5 clay to prepare the stationary phase?
Also how thick was your filter bed or did you use a packed column?
2 Likes
No solvents were used to pre make the filter cakes, I used a dry loading process where I used a 20ton press to compact the powders. The compressed powder is sandwiched between 2x 5 micron sintered stainless filters.
The bed was 6" thick on a 4x48 column.
7 Likes
Great idea I’m gonna be a copy cat.
3 Likes