Beautiful!
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I think thatâs the holy grail. Ultimately if you were able to accomplish this with the level of refinement static can offer I probably wouldnât even press it personally? Seems like a crime 
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This is some rather remarkable phenomenology!
Could it possibly be that âdue to their chemistryâ the capitate heads have a natural endogenous charge?
Placing âsemi dryâ- trichomes in a polyethylene tube and just touching the side of the tube while observing under a microscopeâŚgives rise to considerable movement.
We have previously discussed this subject , and I am just throwing it out to the forum, hoping to attract some additional discussion of your process. Just plain curiousity on my part.
The pectin polymers in the cell wall carry a glacturonic acid moiety, which interestingly has a pKa almost identical to cannabinoic acids~3. Depending on the local pH environment, all of these carboxylic acids would either be neutral or anionic. The anionic forms would be expected in normal physiological solutions. But we have to realize the capitate area has plastids about. Now if Ca++ concentration were such that the carboxylates are ion paired, one might expect that an induced surface charge (negative) might obtain in a cold plasma field.
If you could send one of your best samples of trichome heads out for ICP-MS analysis of common metallic ions it might help a bit.
quote: âFor All these properties originate from the tight binding of calcium ions to the pectins present in the cell walls . The factor most important for controlling wall behaviour is the density of non-diffusible charges and, due to its high affinity, calcium can significantly affect this factor.â
So if there is enough Ca++ for all the galacto-uronic acid moieties, the plastids may well supply enough for Counter ions for the cannabinoate anions as well.
Salicylate anion is known to chelate Caââ in a 2:1 ratio (2, carboxylate: 1 Ca++). Interestingly Calcium Salicylate is not readily soluble in water. Here I am just trying to clarify the chemistry aspect of âdue to their chemistryâ. But I have to admit that Cold Plasma and Triboelectric charging have a certain âblack boxâ aspect to them.
Regards
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The plasma field does not induce the charge on the particles. We have been unsuccessful in inducing a charge other than through friction (triboelectric effect). (Doing more research on alternate methods.)
The plasma field separates the polarized particles. I believe the acidic form of cannabinoids are what charges. Professor Alex tested this on pure cannabinoids and they only charge in their acidic form.
Marcus Bubbleman posted a video of rosin that is polarized. I would suppose this supports Alexâs research. It would also suggest that the shells of the trichome do not play a major role in this process.
If anyone is interested in digging deeper into this research, I am happy to sponsor it.
@moronnabis I appreciate this kind of comment. I Love the science!
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Have you noticed any difference in terps between running the kief through your static machine vs just separating it manually. Does your machine preserve them more or are any lost by charging the heads with plasma. Love to see the same material separated both ways and coaâs ran on them.
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We did run complete COA on before and after the Plasma. I think I spoke about that in episode 18 on YouTube.
The COA of the feed was similar to the COA of the heads. I would say there is no change. Theoretically there is no reason for a change since the process is so fast and there is no temperature or chemical modification of the particle.
That being said itâs a difficult question to answer with limits of detection and sampling error.
I would say manual sift is probably marginally worse simply because of the exposure to heat and the posibility of breaking heads. All this is debatable.
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boomâŚI have heard there are some new developments with regards to that patent and enforcement âŚkeep your ears to the railâŚ
can we have a clarification of. Terms?
You mean tested pure cannabinoic acids when your say âpure cannabinoidsâ?
then when a cannabinoic acid is in its âacidic formâ:
R-COOH, which is often referred to as the âNeutral formâ because it does not carry an âionic chargeâ in the Acidic form, i.e., the cannabinoic acid neutral form.
Or do you mean âthey only charge in their acidic formâ, you mean to say the R-COO- ionic form, Which would actually be R-COO- (X+) where (X+) is a counter ion salt or h-bonded complexing agent.
those are the two forms of the Cannabinoic Acid,
Now is Dr. ALex saying that only one form of these two can be further charged by Triboelectric effect?
Can anyone reading take a âDiamondâ THCA and crush it to powder , place it in a capped 50 ml HDPE test tube and shake it. Tell us what happens. Also compare to âfast crashâ THCA. PRESUMABLY both of these crystalline states are thought to be dimer R-COOH cannabinoic acid form. And by COA analysis 99% pure, esp. the diamonds. If they charge by tribulation shaking process the powder should end up on the sides of the tube, not necessarily the bottom. how did Dr. Alex come to that conclusion, and what was the source of his âpure cannabinoidsâ?
Charles, it is just something I think needs clarification.
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Free download and interesting review of Triboelectric effects:
ACS Omega 2022, 7, 41828â41839
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Like I replied in DM, I have more questions than answers. We tried THCA and CBDA isolates and they can both be statically separated, no need for trichome cell walls.
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US20170202896A1.pdf (1.9 MB)
Looks to me like a Patent has existed since 2017 and another similar Patent filed in Canada in 2018. The concept of using electrostatic technology is not at all unique and it looks to me like someone should have done a Patent search before claiming to the world they held a Patent on a piece of equipment that they clearly donât.
Welcome @ambrosij
I believe you missed the part where the patent that @moronnabis, @Killa12345 and @Fungnificent were refering to was not for electrostatic separationâŚ.
âŚdespite the threads title.
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