General drug news/discussion

Wow that guy looks exactly like how I imagine a guy from Florida who manufactures k2 would look

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He is so happy too

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Terpenoids in LA air pollution

Cool lets stop sendimg water to socal to save everyone from the terps…
watch cali try to tax cannabis further for terp pollution .

Ahhh. You’re finally being honest!

Listen, I know it’s hard to admit your mother sold your Christmas presents because she didn’t give a fuck about you. It’s so much easier to blame the drugs.

That your cousin didn’t rob your house, and if he did it was his addiction that forced him to do it.

That your brother and your wife would never turned to sucking dick if it wasn’t for those evil mind-controlling drugs that those evil doctors put them on.

You’re so sure you know what you’re talking about, why strawman my argument? Is it above your abilities to address my point directly?

The fucking article you posted explicitly states there are a myriad of reasons for continuing their opiate abuse. Pain management wasn’t even at the top of the list. Again. Did you not read the fucking article you posted!?

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It’s so funny that bump stocks are now legal and giggle switches aren’t. Lmfao…

The fucking racism could not be more transparent.

You should read the article he posted before you jump on his dick. Are y’all really so fucking emotional you’re gunna strawman the researchers, too?

From the authors:

“Most research designed to answer the “why” of the prescription opioid epidemic has relied on structured interviews, which rigidly attempt to capture the complex reasons people use opioids …
Rather than simply providing a “high,” opioids reportedly relieve psychological/emotional problems or provide an escape from life stressors. As use continues, avoidance of withdrawal sickness becomes an overriding concern, with all other benefits playing minor roles in persistent use.”

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One of the people in one of the studies said:

“When I couldn’t stand the pain, I would take a pill. And then one day, I woke up and took a pill; there was no pain though.
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When you first start taking em, you can take a couple pills and you feel nice. And then your body starts increasing its tolerance and you have to take more.” Oh no! I’m two weeks into it and I don’t have my prescription anymore, so let’s go to a different doctor.

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Sounds an awful lot like what I described…. Hmmm… let’s continue reading….

the FDA allowed the sponsoring company to state in the package insert or label that abuse was expected to be low because of the slow
release properties of the formulation.[36]
However, addicts cleverly and quickly realized that they could defeat the slow-release device by crushing or dissolving the pills, making large amounts of oxycodone immediately available in a form suitable for snorting or intravenous injection.

Oh snap, everyone always calls these companies monsters, but it sounds like in this particular case they were just fucking dumb. Also, they don’t crush em or dissolve them, they suck on the pill and the coating dissolves.

Fascinating. Let’s keep going.

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I thought it was a safer drug because it was legal. So who cares if I’m abusing it, it’s legal, so what are they going to do?[22]
Moreover, often to justify their use of pills and assuage any guilt, patients convinced themselves that heroin addicts were junkies, but pill addicts were more socially acceptable. To wit:
I actually frowned upon [heroin]. Like, for me that was the epitome of—I just had visions of the movies and somebody that’s dirty and sitting in an alley. For me, that was heroin, like that was the bottom of the barrel. And, I knew in my head that it’s basically the same thing as a blue. It’s just pharmaceutical.[21]
Yeah, I’m not doing heroin. I’m not a heroin addict. I’m just a pill head. I have seen that a lot, especially with girls too.

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Back to the authors, who seem to think pain management isn’t all that fucking important for these junkies:

although self-medicating physical pain and use for altering mood/pleasurable feeling were noted, the most cited reasons included use as a response to life stressors or as a means of self-medicating psychological issues, effects of trauma, or emotional pain.

Fuck, @cyclopath you’re a fucking retard for posting this article without reading it first. Lmfao. How the fuck did you manage to get that degree? Reminds me of that joke, what do you call the person who finishes last in class in medical school?

I’ll end it by shitting on these junkies. Look at this fucking quote.

” You don’t get high after a while. You just need it so you’re not sick”.

Awww, you’re gunna be kinda sick if you quit!? How fucking pathetic.

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I do not mind reading criticism or disagreement but keep it civil

@KnowledgeSeth quote

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:left_speech_bubble: Deep listening is miraculous for both listener and speaker.When someone receives us with open-hearted, non-judging, intensely interested listening, our spirits expand. — Sue Patton Thoele

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Not to stick my head in the lions mouth but…How Purdue Used Misleading Charts to Hide OxyContin's Addictive Power - CBS News

Not saying that all companies do this deliberately, but at least in the instance of Oxy being addictive and Purdue claiming to shareholders and customers (doctors/patients) that it wasn’t addictive they weren’t be “just fucking dumb” as you say. They deliberately altered their own research to make it APPEAR less addictive. This is what makes companies in this day and age monsters. The fact that they can get away with intentionally misleading regulators, shareholders, and customers with zero repercussions.
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The people at the FDA who are responsible for approving the packaging statements look at these types of graphs all the time. So to me some of the blame should fall on them for what seems to be willfully ignoring the fact that Purdue was using skewed data. Lots of blame to go around here and pinning it all on the people hurt by a multinational, multi billion dollar company seems shortsighted. And while I agree with you that there are some personal responsibility problems at play in our society, we collectively shouldn’t ignore that the powerful people/companies might just actively be trying to keep their boots on our necks.

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It’s a special kind of idiocy required on behalf of the regulators to actually believe Purdue that Oxycodone isn’t addictive. EVERY centrally active, mu-agonist opioid is addictive. This has been known for a very long time. Doesn’t relieve Purdue of their responsibility, but puts a lot of additional guilt on regulators.

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https://apnews.com/article/mexico-drug-lord-captured-mayo-zambada-092bb02d8116fe462b6e1340547a4c77

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They… turned themselves in? Why would they do that?

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probably just CIA assets being returned

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Maybe they want to quit such stressful business and do not want to be prosecuted for mass murders in Mexico. In the US they would be prosecuted for drug trafiking “only”, as were some Colombian druglords.

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https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/drugs-fentanyl-supplychain/